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  • #5027
    GTO Man
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    A Dane County judge has ordered a temporary halt to the collective bargaining law that Walker and his cohorts put through.

    Madison dot Com Story

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  • #37900
    Anonymous
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    Wow!!!!…………there’s a surprise

    #37901
    GTO Man
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    WIth all the information that has emerged I would think some of the Republicans on the fence would vote against it when a new vote takes place, if it does.

    #37904
    moparkid25
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    The Right is not afraid of the Union thug mob tactics. With all the property damage thats been caused by the protesters, Walker should’ve just started laying people off. Then they wouldn’t be pissing and moaning about having to contribute to there own healthcare and retirement… Like the rest of the people in the State.

    If you’re a State worker and you’re claiming your going to lose everything you have over Walker’s bill, then you’re already living beyond your means.

    #37911
    GTO Man
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    There was little if any property damage inside the capital. The damage claims were highly inflated by Walker’s puppet who is head of DOA. The grass outside may of been damaged outside but that is a very cheap price to pay for democracy in action.

    As has been pointed out this is not just about unions this is about all workers, unions or not. The wealthy in this country have been padding their wallets for decades at the expense of people who make less.

    #37912
    moparkid25
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    Its not the cost of the landscape repairs in question, its the fact that it happened. There should be more respect for our State Capital than to damage the landscaping. Even during the Vietnam War protests, there wasn’t that much landscape damage done to the UW.

    I also don’t get where this is going to attack all workers, either, or where people feel they are owed something. I don’t understand why its not ok for someone to be wealthy and have money, and others think the wealth should be shared because they don’t have it. I’m not rich, never claimed to be, nor do I feel a “Corporate Fatcat” owes me any of there money because they have it and I don’t. To me that is silly, they earned it, not me. I will admit that there are some wealthy people out there that didn’t make there money the honest way, but those people are on both sides of the political fence too. I have worked since I was 12, I started with a paper route. Then I worked cleaning office buildings, then washing dishes at a restaurant here in town (which was the absolute worst job I ever had). From there, I applied for an apprenticeship thru the school which I was accepted and landed an entry level job at a dealership in Madison. I worked there two years, then landed a better job at a dealer in my town, where I worked the last 12 years before switching to my new job. No one made that possible except me. I saved along the way, had and have some cool cars, started my retirement accounts, had a few bad side deals along the way, but kept on going because I’m not owed anything by anyone. I also don’t make Charlie Sheen money, I draw an honest and livable wage, contribute to my own benefits, and ride off into the sunset every night.

    One thing in any business, no matter what industry you work in, is that you must plan for the unexpected whether that be a layoff, termination, benefits reduction, etc. Business can change in the blink of an eye, and you have to be ready for it. Usually the writings are on the wall before everything goes to hell… I see where the state employees are coming from as no one wants to take a paycut. But, a paycut is better than an unemployment check. At my last job, it got so slow a couple years ago that I was reduced to a 32 hour week for a period of time. Four day work weeks, no overtime. It did suck, but I saw where the owner was coming from – we didn’t have any business. So I worked my 32, and on my Wednesday off every week I worked for a friend of mine to make up the difference.

    And, as I am also a small business owner, I understand the checks and balances of operating a business. For me, I’m the only employee. When I ran my lawn service, I had a high school kid working for me. When we were busy with spring cleanups and landscaping, we did good and I paid him well. When the well dried up, I kept him on but I explained to him that I could only pay him X amount of dollars per job because I wasn’t generating the income I was earlier in the year. He stayed on with me anyway because he enjoyed the work and it was extra money for him. When I got out of the lawn business, I offered him my accounts. He took the in-town ones, and still does them today.

    I guess my point in these idle ramblings is that its my opinion that things needed to be done to operate the state as a successful business if we want to be Open For Business. I don’t see Gov. Walkers’ option as an attack on state employees, because he wants to create jobs, not eliminate them. I don’t agree with many that the State Employees should be Union either, because the Union has no business within the State offices. The Unions served there place in the 30s and 40s, but that was a different time. Someone said in a previous post that Henry Ford did more than the Unions, and I have to agree. IMO, the Unions went from protecting the rights of the working man to protecting themselves. They too are a very powerful political force and donator, just as the NRA is to the Conservatives. There’s big money on both sides of the fence, people :)

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