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[Garibaldi]

The Wisconsin Collector Car Classes and Judging Standard came about after discussion in this thread about car shows having a more consistent class and judging organization. The standard is created by the people for the people – and can be adopted by any car show which wishes to have a certified list of classes and help attract participants to their show.

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[Garibaldi]

The 1st draft of the WCC CJS has been published and is available on this page. Please submit your changes and suggestions.

[Eclipse_Tuner]

This could be quite huge actually. If/when I have some free time this week, I’ll add my 2 cents to it.

[Anonymous]

I’m not a Import guy, well, I do have the bimmer, so this is non-bias but I do think a Import section should be included in classes.

No way the Import scene will embrace car shows if they are not included. And why not make it Asian/Import Euro/Import for the large shows.

I also think a trailer class should be put in for the Alpha group. Car shows that large are going to attract the trailer queens. The smaller shows get them from time to time and I tell you they get sniffed out fast and thrown under the bus.

[jonmandude]

Import classes need to be included. It is part of the car scene today. The days of year limitations needs to end if the hobby is to continue growing. It is a new way of modifying cars and is entering the musclecar ranks with the resto-mods. I think show judges should become more knowledgeable about the newer cars and styles. There is a growing interest in classic japanese imports on the west coast and it will only be a matter of time before that grows to a more national level. As the imports get more welcome in shows those classes will have to be broken up and developed as the pre-74 years have. There will need to be classes for japanese and european imports and classes for restored and modified and well. We could also get into the styles of modifying like VIP.

I guess I am annoyed by the car hobby not embracing all styles and makes. It is a hobby about the love of cars, ALL CARS. It should never be an exclusive hobby or a hobby that decides for us what is acceptable. Our cars are an extension of our personality and each is and should continue to be as different and diverse as we are.

[Anonymous]

jonmandude wrote:

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I guess I am annoyed by the car hobby not embracing all styles and makes. It is a hobby about the love of cars, ALL CARS. It should never be an exclusive hobby or a hobby that decides for us what is acceptable. Our cars are an extension of our personality and each is and should continue to be as different and diverse as we are.

Which is why there should be classes, even if at the start, the first few years of shows the classes are not filled with many cars the numbers will grow when they see they are included. I know too many tuners that don’t bother with shows because they aren’t represented.

My thoughts with Imports, Asian and Euro. For now make it 25 years or older for one class and then 25 to present day. Or 20 years, or 15 years. My bimmer is useless at a car show, there is no class for it so why bother to take it. How do you class a 82′ 320i that is daily driven and used to be AutoX? I think it looks nice enough for a show. I’ve done interior mods, exterior mods, carb swap and intake swap. It has won trophies for Autocrossing.

Special interest? Modified?

With a starting point for Imports, Asian and Euro, they at least have something unique to them.

[Garibaldi]

Do you think it would be appropriate for there to be a tuner class for Class A and Class B but let Class C shows have tuners fall in with Special Interest (since they’re small shows)?

[Anonymous]

Garibaldi wrote:

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Do you think it would be appropriate for there to be a tuner class for Class A and Class B but let Class C shows have tuners fall in with Special Interest (since they’re small shows)?

I think you could do that If it is noted that the Imports go in Special Interest. So someone using the guide or those attending don’t think they can’t be classed.

[jonmandude]

I agree with the asian/euro classes as a starting point. Year qualifications should really depend on who shows (see other thread on trophies). Now we divide muscle cars up into many classes (years, stock, modified), tuners need the same thought process. A 5 year old car may have much done to it, but a 15-20 year old car has had to be more restored as well as modified. There aren’t many 20 year old imports that have been saved to become classics later in life, like many of the Boss Mustangs or Hemi Mopars were.

I personally am not a fan of any car that is less than 2 years old being included in a show. I am not a fan of purchasing a new car and showing it. But that is my view, nothing more. Most shows are providing a “Modern Muscle” class or placing these cars in a “Special Interest” class, yet they are reluctant to include import classes.

[GTO Man]

I agree, there should be classes for all cars, not just certain types. The hobby is about including, not excluding. I will never understand how some people want to exclude certain cars. That’s where the show organizers have to evolve, just as the types of cars have.

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