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OK this has been on everyone’s mind. What is y’all’s opinion on the subject?
Mine is this. I have been watching this, like everyone else, and am growing more and more tired of Brett blaming the Packers for “moving ahead”. DUDE YOU RETIRED!!! were they supposed to wait for you to change your mind…again? Look everyone in Wisconsin loves Brett Favre, me included, but c’mon for three years he has pulled this “maybe I want to retire” crap. Each year the Packers have waited for him to decide the future of the team we all love. Each year the future has been on hold for him to come back and throw another interception at the wrong time, keeping us from the super bowl. Now he does this tearful “at some time in this off-season they decided to move forward” interview after he was traded?
Brett we all love you here in cheeseland. We all wanted nothing more than another Green Bay super bowl ring with Brett Favre at the helm. But you decided that you wanted nothing of us anymore, you retired. Then you changed your mind. And you didn’t do it with respect to the Packer organization, you used the media to try to gain public support and force the Packers hand. All of this should have been handled behind closed doors, not on ESPN.
No one forced number 4 to retire. No one asked him to air his laundry on 60 minutes. I never heard Green Bay say “we don’t want you”. I only heard Green Bay say that they had moved on because he choose to retire. I only heard Green Bay say that he would be welcome to compete for the job (and we all know he would win, so where is the harm?).
I know we all don’t know everything that happened, and we never will. But from where I stand Brett Favre stained the Green and Gold, not the other way around.
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Well put.
I hear the New York media is really easy to deal with. And the fans, wonderful just like Wisconsin, they will embrace him even if it’s a 12 INT no TD start thumbsup.gif
Kudos to everything you said… From my point of view it will still be hard to have the season start and not have #4 there… I’m old enough to remember other QB’s, but he’s the only one that stands out.
Good luck to everyone in this situation, I would’ve loved nothing more than to see a competition as it would’ve been good for everyone. I can only hope Aaron Rodgers realizes the gift Favre left behind and goes with it.
Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy are idiots. Aaron Rodgers was second string for a reason, and that’s because he sucks. He couldn’t barely complete any passes during a scrimage, what’s he gonna do when he’s actually gotta play? I’d personally rather see Craig Nall get the 1st string position.
Yes, Brett did retire. Yes, he led the fans on for three years. But if you retired and wanted to come back to work, would you be happy if someone tried to keep you retired?
Personally, I think McCarthy wanted Favre gone. I’m gonna run right out and get me a Jets jersey the first chance I get!
Zac you can’t be serious. Thompson and McCarthy made decisions based on the facts at hand, Brett Favre retired. With those facts they had no choice but to move ahead with the quarterback they had drafted to be his successor. Succeed or fail, it is his time to lead the team. If #4 had not retired he would have been the QB this season, but he did. If he did not retire, they would not have moved ahead. He choose the move, not Thompson and McCarthy.
Two years ago the Packers fired Mike Sherman. Brett cried “I am unhappy and I think I want to retire”. He wanted Steve Mariucci. When the Packers got McCarthy, Brett had to meet with him and then decided that he would play. It turned out to be a good coaching choice as he got us one game away from the super bowl in his second season with the youngest team in the league (and we lost because Favre threw another of his record interceptions).
Last year Brett wanted the Packers to get Randy Moss. When they didn’t he again cried “I think I am going to retire”. Maybe Moss would have taken away from a promising rookie group of receivers? Either way it didn’t matter Moss didn’t get a ring either.
This year he wanted something and knew that the same old tactics weren’t going to work so he turned up the heat and actually retired (but he never filed the papers). It backfired on him.
If you ran a business and had an employee that was valuable but constantly threatened to quit if he didn’t get his way, eventually you get tired of it and move ahead without that employee. That is all this is. Brett thinks he is more important than the Packers, without him they will fail. Maybe so, but maybe not.
Give Rodgers a break. He did nothing in this but his job. He never said anything about Favre, he never said anything about the Packers, he never said anything about anything, he just did what he had to do. To me that is a poise under pressure and I am interested in seeing how he will use that poise at the quarterback position. He looked pretty good in the Dallas game when Favre went down.
Oh, and let’s also note that Favre didn’t pass his physical due to an abdominal strain.
Thompson and McCarthy won’t go down in history with Favre, when he gets inducted into the Hall of Fame it will be Holmgren and Ron Wolf that get the mention with Brett.
Aaron Rodgers was Thompson’s first hire, therefore he can do no wrong with the office. Rodgers is Thompson and McCarthy’s only chance to go down in history. I won’t even get started on the 5-year contract extensions these d-bags got after Favre “retired”…
If the guy wants to play, he should play. Wether its for the Packers or not, he’s doing what he wants. I salute him for that.
What you say is true.
I also applaud him for playing and agree that if he wants to he should. My problem is with the way he has played this all out for the past three years. He has played the spoiled superstar act. He has taken a “if I don’t get my way I’ll quit” posture every off-season and held the hopes and dreams of all Packers fans hostage while he pouted about not getting his way. This last month he really over did it with how it played it out in the media and used public support to get his way. The whole Greta Van Sustern interview (she is a friend of Deanna Favre) was a ploy to force Green Bay’s hand. It didn’t need to go there. He did that because Thompson was doing his job. It is Thompson’s job to look out for the team and keep the team moving forward and that means not letting it be held hostage by one man, even if that man is a legend. I actually have more respect for Thompson for not backing down on what he believed to be the right move in the face of public pressure. It is his job to think about what is best for the green Bay Packers.
I hope all of this brings the Packers closer as a team.
All of this happened in Dallas with Emmit Smith. He was traded to the Arizona Cardinals under similar circumstances. But Emmit never announced a retirement. Emmit never used the media to sway public opinion. Look how that turned out for Emmit. He finished two pointless seasons in AZ and never did anything worth mentioning. Then he realized that he should have hung it up instead of playing the “I want my way or else” card. In the end Dallas let him retire as a Cowboy.
If Chad Johnson were to do this to the Bengals you would probably say “fuck him, they should just trade him. The team is more important than he is”, but because it is Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers you feel differently. We don’t know all that was said behind closed doors, we never will. We only know what Brett Favre has told his friends in the media trying to use us to get his way. Thompson and McCarthy haven’t tried to manipulate the media to say anything negative about Brett Favre , only Brett Favre has said anything negative about the other side.
Doesn’t it get a wee bit colder in NJ/NY than Wisconsin? Should be interesting to see how he does in the cold this year, we all know he couldn’t play for a crap in Wisconsin winters.
As much as I love watching the guy play ~ he really made the game ~ I hope this all settles down now and we can get back to the basics and winning football. I can’t imagine the stress it’s put on everyone and when you think about it, if all he really wanted to do is play, none of this would’ve happened.
I know there will be plenty of Packer fans that have become Jets fans, the new jersey is already out. Can’t wait to see him play against the Patriots!
Quote:Doesn’t it get a wee bit colder in NJ/NY than Wisconsin? Should be interesting to see how he does in the cold this year, we all know he couldn’t play for a crap in Wisconsin winters.As much as I love watching the guy play ~ he really made the game ~ I hope this all settles down now and we can get back to the basics and winning football. I can’t imagine the stress it’s put on everyone and when you think about it, if all he really wanted to do is play, none of this would’ve happened.
Actually NY is not as cold as WI. Winters here suck!
I agree with your very well put statement, if all he really wanted to do was play…
I just saw the Jets press thing on ESPN where he says he only ever wanted to play for the Packers. I am confused isn’t it you Brett that just had to say you were committed to playing for the Packers to McCarthy and we could have moved forward? Isn’t it you who said that you couldn’t get past your feelings being hurt? If you “only wanted to play for the Packers” you would have.
I am sorry if I offend any Brett Favre fans. I am a Packer fan and I feel that he betrayed my team. I have an autographed Brett Favre picture on my wall from the ’96 championship. I will still have fond memories of #4 as a Packer, but his light isn’t as bright for me anymore. That sucks more than any WI winter ever has. I was not happy with him retiring but accepted it knowing that it had to come sooner or later, but this is hard to swallow.
As someone was quoted as saying “Brett Favre wearing a jets jersey isn’t right, it never will be”.
Watching last nights Favre press conference it looked like he was making a hostage tape.
I think in the end the biggest loser in all of this will be Favre. If he brings the Jets to glory, fans will wish he would have never retired in March like he shouldn’t have and lead GB to the SB. If Favre fails miserably people will say “Should have stayed retired.” If it’s a mediocre season, I see Favre hanging it up similar to what Reggie did at Carolina.
Reggie, there is a guy who tarnished his legend in GB by his end of career antics. Still wonder where all the donated money went….
And anyway, heck with Rodgers, he is a Tedford QB and doomed to fail. Bring on the Brian Brohm era!
I also watched the press conference, it was depressing…. even more so watching him run on the field with the plays in hand and helping the Jets out. Watching him hold the new jersey wasn’t fun either, but I guess it’s time we all move on. I know plenty are depressed, but this was all out of our control. At times I think Favre did more “playing the Packers than playing FOR the Packers” and now he/we have to live with that.
It could be a long, long winter but then again the Pack could surprise us all. Thompson/McCarthy obviously see/know something we don’t?!
Not only Thompson/McCarthy, the odds makers in Las Vegas
The Packers were a 15-2 bet to make the Super Bowl before all of this happened, now they are 10-1
The Jets were 70-1 now with Favre are 15-1
The Pack is still in better shape.
Quote:Not only Thompson/McCarthy, the odds makers in Las VegasThe Packers were a 15-2 bet to make the Super Bowl before all of this happened, now they are 10-1
The Jets were 70-1 now with Favre are 15-1
The Pack is still in better shape.
Febuary, before Favre retired, Dad had 8-1 at the Imperial Palace for the Pack winning the SB. Pats where still the best, Giants where worse then the Pack if memory serves.
Course, that was just the Imperial. Never bothered finding the other odds at different casinos.
I’m actually stoked to watch the Pack now. It’s now a team and not a player and a team. I think also this establishes who is in charge in GB. No longer will you have the players in charge. If they will let Favre go you’d have to think they would just shoot on sight anyone who pulls up lame thumbsup.gif
I wonder if every day that Favre puts that Jets jersey on and looks in the mirror doe sit it feel like a mistake or just odd?
lilwillie is right, he didn’t look comfortable or happy in his press conference. He looked like he was going thru the motions and his heart wasn’t in it. I wonder if he will also play that way. His strength is always how he plays with heart.
I have two more words on this subject…Madden Curse
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