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October 12, 2009 at 10:00 pm #4510GTO ManModerator
80% of the products we purchase from China were made in the US before the Companies sold us out.
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October 12, 2009 at 11:40 pm #35544AnonymousInactive
Would anyone like to try and defend this statement? “If we had the production of all of those products back in the US, the consumer would be buying them at more or less the same price”. Opinions anyone?
October 12, 2009 at 11:45 pm #35554moparkid25ParticipantWashbush wrote:
Quote:Would anyone like to try and defend this statement? “If we had the production of all of those products back in the US, the consumer would be buying them at more or less the same price”. Opinions anyone?Well, I’m a firm believer in buying American. I would have no problem paying a lil more knowing I’m supporting a company thats based in the USA and hires Americans or legal immigrants in there manufacturing facilities. Those who work for large companies based in the USA have to pay the same taxes I do, and I feel that if I bought from them, they would buy from me
October 13, 2009 at 3:55 am #35545AnonymousInactiveCompanies didnt sell out. Just were sick and tired of being over taxed by their government. Tell me you wouldnt do the same?
October 14, 2009 at 9:12 pm #35555lordairgtarParticipantWashbush wrote:
Quote:Would anyone like to try and defend this statement? “If we had the production of all of those products back in the US, the consumer would be buying them at more or less the same price”. Opinions anyone?In my world (which isn’t very big) I try and get my products from the US. I have a DJ service and a good 95% of my equipment is American Made. Now let’s compare two model car companies. AMT (Round2)has its kits molded in China. A kit can cost anywhere from $17 to &23 dollars these days. Lindberg, another model car kit manufacturer, has all their kits manufactured in the USA. Their is no difference in the prices, in fact, Lindberg’s might be a couple bucks less. Revell has most of their kits produced in China, with some in Europe and some of the Tom Daniels designed kits (Red Baron, Rommel’s Rod, Tiajuana Taxi) are produced in the US.
October 15, 2009 at 4:50 pm #35558Eclipse_TunerParticipantMy allegance lies with whoever is producing the better quality and better designed product of comparable price.
Unfortunatly for US manufacturing, the design and in some cases the quality has declined when compared to companies of other nationalities. So in my opinion, I see no reason to buy a product just because it is American made.
It sounds callous, but Im a firm believer in free market on the global scale. If a company cannot compete with its foreign counterparts, then it either needs to step up (as Ford is now trying to do, and actually doing pretty good at it), or it should be allowed to fail.
China is quickly becoming a design and engineering super-power that is going to have a big impact in the future. There is a huge influx of Japanese, and Western design and engineering professors setting up curriculums at China’s Universities, and they are starting to turn out quality design and engineering professionals.
We need to start stepping up our game as well.
October 15, 2009 at 10:32 pm #35559GTO ManModeratorUnfortunately there doesn’t seem to be many products that you can compare side by side, since in many categories they are not made here. Or if they are not that many stores carry them.
October 16, 2009 at 4:46 pm #35546Amigo2kModeratorInsurers dropping Chinese drywall policies
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091015/ap_on_re_us/us_chinese_drywall
October 17, 2009 at 3:26 am #35570GTO ManModeratorIt seems China does not enforce any standards when it comes to producing products, the only standard is that it is produced with very cheap labor. So basically most products made in China are sub-standard compared to those made in the US. Agree or disagree.
October 17, 2009 at 4:12 am #35571Eclipse_TunerParticipantI disagree. What most people dont realize is that if a product is produced for an American company in China, the American company sets the quality control standards.
The majority of companies in China care very much about resale quality (if the product isnt bought, they are out of a job). However, the production standards are almost always set by the “client”, which would be the American company.
I worked for a Chinese company as a design engineer for 4 years…it was a pretty big eye opener.
5 years or so ago, there were a lot of corners being cut over there, but now that is fading away. They basically cannot afford the bad press.
October 17, 2009 at 2:15 pm #35572GTO ManModeratorMost of the products can be made anywhere as long as the facilities are there and training is done. The companies have no loyalty to the workers here who put them in the position they are in now. The obvious problem is the differences between the standards of living between the various countries. Workers in other countries make a fraction of the wages made here and the workers here are left on the outside looking in. This has always been the case where some jobs are moved to different areas to save money. But it has never happened at the pace it has in the last 15 to 20 years. New types of jobs haven’t been produced to absorb those workers.
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