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Not only Thompson/McCarthy, the odds makers in Las Vegas
The Packers were a 15-2 bet to make the Super Bowl before all of this happened, now they are 10-1
The Jets were 70-1 now with Favre are 15-1
The Pack is still in better shape.
Quote:Doesn’t it get a wee bit colder in NJ/NY than Wisconsin? Should be interesting to see how he does in the cold this year, we all know he couldn’t play for a crap in Wisconsin winters.As much as I love watching the guy play ~ he really made the game ~ I hope this all settles down now and we can get back to the basics and winning football. I can’t imagine the stress it’s put on everyone and when you think about it, if all he really wanted to do is play, none of this would’ve happened.
Actually NY is not as cold as WI. Winters here suck!
I agree with your very well put statement, if all he really wanted to do was play…
I just saw the Jets press thing on ESPN where he says he only ever wanted to play for the Packers. I am confused isn’t it you Brett that just had to say you were committed to playing for the Packers to McCarthy and we could have moved forward? Isn’t it you who said that you couldn’t get past your feelings being hurt? If you “only wanted to play for the Packers” you would have.
I am sorry if I offend any Brett Favre fans. I am a Packer fan and I feel that he betrayed my team. I have an autographed Brett Favre picture on my wall from the ’96 championship. I will still have fond memories of #4 as a Packer, but his light isn’t as bright for me anymore. That sucks more than any WI winter ever has. I was not happy with him retiring but accepted it knowing that it had to come sooner or later, but this is hard to swallow.
As someone was quoted as saying “Brett Favre wearing a jets jersey isn’t right, it never will be”.
What you say is true.
I also applaud him for playing and agree that if he wants to he should. My problem is with the way he has played this all out for the past three years. He has played the spoiled superstar act. He has taken a “if I don’t get my way I’ll quit” posture every off-season and held the hopes and dreams of all Packers fans hostage while he pouted about not getting his way. This last month he really over did it with how it played it out in the media and used public support to get his way. The whole Greta Van Sustern interview (she is a friend of Deanna Favre) was a ploy to force Green Bay’s hand. It didn’t need to go there. He did that because Thompson was doing his job. It is Thompson’s job to look out for the team and keep the team moving forward and that means not letting it be held hostage by one man, even if that man is a legend. I actually have more respect for Thompson for not backing down on what he believed to be the right move in the face of public pressure. It is his job to think about what is best for the green Bay Packers.
I hope all of this brings the Packers closer as a team.
All of this happened in Dallas with Emmit Smith. He was traded to the Arizona Cardinals under similar circumstances. But Emmit never announced a retirement. Emmit never used the media to sway public opinion. Look how that turned out for Emmit. He finished two pointless seasons in AZ and never did anything worth mentioning. Then he realized that he should have hung it up instead of playing the “I want my way or else” card. In the end Dallas let him retire as a Cowboy.
If Chad Johnson were to do this to the Bengals you would probably say “fuck him, they should just trade him. The team is more important than he is”, but because it is Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers you feel differently. We don’t know all that was said behind closed doors, we never will. We only know what Brett Favre has told his friends in the media trying to use us to get his way. Thompson and McCarthy haven’t tried to manipulate the media to say anything negative about Brett Favre , only Brett Favre has said anything negative about the other side.
Zac you can’t be serious. Thompson and McCarthy made decisions based on the facts at hand, Brett Favre retired. With those facts they had no choice but to move ahead with the quarterback they had drafted to be his successor. Succeed or fail, it is his time to lead the team. If #4 had not retired he would have been the QB this season, but he did. If he did not retire, they would not have moved ahead. He choose the move, not Thompson and McCarthy.
Two years ago the Packers fired Mike Sherman. Brett cried “I am unhappy and I think I want to retire”. He wanted Steve Mariucci. When the Packers got McCarthy, Brett had to meet with him and then decided that he would play. It turned out to be a good coaching choice as he got us one game away from the super bowl in his second season with the youngest team in the league (and we lost because Favre threw another of his record interceptions).
Last year Brett wanted the Packers to get Randy Moss. When they didn’t he again cried “I think I am going to retire”. Maybe Moss would have taken away from a promising rookie group of receivers? Either way it didn’t matter Moss didn’t get a ring either.
This year he wanted something and knew that the same old tactics weren’t going to work so he turned up the heat and actually retired (but he never filed the papers). It backfired on him.
If you ran a business and had an employee that was valuable but constantly threatened to quit if he didn’t get his way, eventually you get tired of it and move ahead without that employee. That is all this is. Brett thinks he is more important than the Packers, without him they will fail. Maybe so, but maybe not.
Give Rodgers a break. He did nothing in this but his job. He never said anything about Favre, he never said anything about the Packers, he never said anything about anything, he just did what he had to do. To me that is a poise under pressure and I am interested in seeing how he will use that poise at the quarterback position. He looked pretty good in the Dallas game when Favre went down.
Oh, and let’s also note that Favre didn’t pass his physical due to an abdominal strain.
If I understand this correctly they may not have a case.
If Ford promised a run of 100 2007 cars and only produced 100 2007 cars they did nothing wrong. They simply followed the success with another run of 100 2008 cars.
I am not a fan of people who buy cars for the collection value. Cars are made to be driven.TWO S/C Ramblers? And Both ‘A’ paint schemes? Dammit I am sorry I missed that. I love those cars. I would give my left nut for one of them. My ultimate dream car (that and a ’69 427 Yenko Nova). It looks like a great show. Thanks for posting
The Cobra is Dana Bowers’. He brought it out to the Lube when I did the Sunday cruises once. Nice car. The Ring Brothers’ Mustang is the person that used to own “Kona”, a ’67 Mustang built by Ring Brothers that was in Hot Rod Magazine twice and on the cover of Summit. The Packard looks great.
I agree that this wasn’t advertised well enough and the $25 is way to high for a local cruise night event. It is for charity but you don’t have to squeeze the money out of people. $10 would have had probably double the turnout. At $25 you price too many people out, especially when many are going to be spending more money on food and drink. I went thru this before at QSL when I did a charity show for Camp Wikidas. Management wanted to raise my entrance fee to make more money. I had to fight to keep it low, and in the end had over 110 cars , and I was on the same day as Verona.
They are gradually learning what all I did there. They are trying and I applaud their efforts.
Not for me. No class for my car. And $25, even if it is for charity, is just too steep for a local cruise night spot. I would consider $15, but not $25
I will always find it funny that Madison considers itself liberal. It is the most conservative place I have lived. I am sorry, but being tolerant of homosexuality and marijuana is only partially liberal. Those of us that enjoy women, smoking cigars, handguns, and other heterosexual tendancies sure can feel limited in what we allowed to do legally in this “liberal” city.
I see your point carguy. And I agree..a little. I have seen some “primadonna’s” that do talk down about certain types of cars. Try bringing an import to a mostly muscle cruise night or show and you will experience it. I know I felt more “accepted” with my Challenger than I do with my Nissan. But those “primadonna’s” are only a small percentage and not worth worrying about.
For me the cruise nights and car shows are about the people, with the cars as a back drop and common interest that we all share. I am not a trophy person (though I have won a couple) and I do not attend with awards in mind. I meet friends.
I have heard grumbling about venues and I have heard grumbling about “why let that car in?” or “I don’t want that near me. I have witness people (and dealt with) who refuse to cooperate with a venue when asked to park a certain way. Those people suck, but they are the minority.
My advice..ignore them. They do not understand.
Wow! This is crazy. From my outside perspective I think the problem is that these changes are coming last minute. My advice would be that if the committee wishes to make changes after the fliers have already been out and people have already registered, tell the committee to pound sand. You cannot make changes this late in the game or this is what happens. People get upset. Only make changes between seasons.
The extra fees for passengers is not unlike the Good Guys show (and I am not comparing). It is understandable only when informed upfront. Let people know all of the facts and then they can decide to show or not. Everyone is upset because it is confusing and too late to change. If everyone had known about the additional fees before, there would probably be no problems.
I discovered that you must have a plan and stick to it. Things do come up and new ideas do happen, but once you inform people about your event that must be it. You cannot change.
Thank you for clearing that up Ryan.
It is becoming obvious (not to toot my own horn) that I provided much at QSL that is now missing.
I would never had “run out of room” at 170 cars. I had over 220 cars on that lot on one day. The Good Guys week last year I had over 180 and I had room.
I was on this forum and a few others thanking everyone every week and letting people know what was happening. Where is that appreciation now?
Also I would have informed everyone about this upcoming day by saying
“This is a show for charity. The entrance fee will be a donation to (name of charity) and a donation of $25 is appreciated but not expected.”While I know that you Ryan and Andrew are really trying to help promote the QSL cruise night, some help from their end would be nice. It would help alleviate any confusion of going thru a second party to inform.
