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TO ALL,
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR EFFORTS!!
IT’S OFFICIAL. GOV. WALKER SIGNED OUR BILL INTO LAW YESTERDAY. SB-462 is now 2011 Wisconsin Act 235.
AS WE WROTE PREVIOUSLY, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH DOT FOR PASSAGE OF THE OTHER PROVISIONS WHICH WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BILL *:
RE-WRITE s.341.10(6) TO REFLECT FEDERAL LAW, SO VEHICLES OLDER THAN 25 YEARS ARE NOT DENIED REGISTRATION FOR LACK OF A CERTIFICATION LABEL.
AMEND COLLECTOR PLATE RULES TO ALLOW FOR MINOR MODIFICATIONS.STAY TUNED AS THESE CHANGES MOVE FORWARD.
Cheers,
Paul* NOTE: Based on previous opposition within the HotRod & Modified owners community, we will exclude Hobbyist vehicles from these changes. Please notify us if this is an incorrect understanding of owner’s opinions.
SB-462 was signed by the Governor on 4-6-2012 2011 Wisconsin Act 235
Bill History: http://www.legis.state.wi.us/2011/data/SB462hst.html
Relating to: registration of motor vehicles by the Department of Transportation.UPDATE
Thank You for Your Terrific Efforts. We’re very pleased to announce some Big Progress.
Nothing Good Is Easy. The changes we are making take time, but WE ARE GETTING THERE!!
Our efforts continue. Thanks for your continued support.ANNOUNCING BIG GAINS FOR OWNERS OF FORMER MILITARY VEHICLES
In discussions with DOT, Tom has secured the following agreements.
Effective Immediately: ANY former U.S. military vehicle under 10,000 GVW may register for regular registration regardless if there is a certification label.
Effective Date (approx 7/1): All Pre-1970 former military vehicles (US and foreign) may register for regular registration; (Auto, Truck, Farm, Collector, Hobbyist, etc.)
Confirmation of problem: 1970 & newer former military vehicles which lack a certification label may still be denied registration under 341.10(6), a problem which can only be corrected through legislation. (see the next item)BIG GAINS FOR ALL VEHICLE OWNERS
Going Forward: DOT has acknowledged the need to draft legislation to amend 341.10(6). The way it’s written now, any vehicle without a certification label can be denied registration, including every pre-’70 vehicle. It will be changed, to acknowledge the federal exemption for vehicles older than 25 years. We expect to draft legislation this year, and will push for passage next year. STAY TUNED.
ANNOUNCING BIG GAINS FOR OWNERS OF COLLECTOR VEHICLES (NOT HOBBYIST)
Note: These changes will not effect HOBBYIST registration *.
As you are aware, Collector registration has recently been denied over trivial items such as radios or hubcaps. When we previously asked your opinion about such changes, the response was overwhelmingly in favor of allowing minor modifications to Collector vehicles while still staying true to the spirit of an original or historic vehicle.In discussions with DOT, Tom has secured the following agreements.
Effective Immediately: DMV will apply as much leniency as possible in deciding which vehicles qualify for Collector registration.
Going Forward: DOT wants a specific list of changes which cannot be considered when deciding originality, and will help draft and introduce legislation for next year.You Can Help, by submitting your ideas for this list to us. (These are things that you think DMV should overlook on a Collector vehicle application.)
Here are some of our ideas: Wheels/Tires, Color, Radio/Sound System, Safety Upgrades (ie. safety glass windows, dual circuit brakes, radial tires), original options…
We plan to set up a webpage where you can register for or against the items. We’ll share the results with you and the DOT.* Please Note – HOBBYIST: Some owners of Hobbyist vehicles opposed the original bill, stating that Hobbyist owners did not wish those laws to change. In response, we are not proposing any changes to Hobbyist registration laws. Until and unless Hobbyist owners raise concerns and problems which they wish this group to address, we will not go there.
THE FUTURE OF THIS E-MAIL GROUP
This Email goes out to owners, clubs, businesses, farmers, organizations, etc. who share a common interest in preserving old vehicles of all sorts. By forming this email group, and by everybody acting united, we have succeeding in getting this bill passed. In doing this, we have created enough political power to support each others’ causes.
It was critical to get at least a part of the bill passed because that validates the power of this group. In order to do that, the bill was stripped down to just the repeal of the military vehicle ban and it ended up directly benefiting only a small segment of our group: owners of former military vehicles. Those owners understand that others have contributed to their gain, and you can be sure they are anxious to repay that effort. But the bill did much more than that, because it proved to DOT and to Legislators that we are a powerful group. Now we have their attention and we are working on getting the rest of our concerns dealt with.
Our political strength comes from all of us working together.TO DO
Remember Who Helped Us! Sen. Glenn Grothman and Assy. Rep. Evan Wynn were responsible for this Bill getting introduced and they voted for it! They deserve your THANKS, and please remember them when it comes time to place your vote. Rep. Wynn is up for re-election soon, and he’s a terrific guy. Pass the word.
If you haven’t already done so, contact your Legislators and THANK THEM for their support.
The votes were unanimous in both houses. Everybody came through for us. Locate and E-Mail your Legislators HERE.Pass the word. Forward this E-Mail to others.
Sign-Up for E-Mails. Reply to me at undy@mhtc.net and I’ll add you. Likewise, if you want to be off the list, just let me know.
Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill SB-462 / AB-580
UPDATE
SUCCESS IN THE LEGISLATURE!
The Wisconsin legislature passed the repeal of 341.10(6m) on Friday.
It now just needs Gov. Walker’s signature to become LAW.This will restore regular registration for all 1969 and older ex military vehicles.
WHAT IS NEXT?
We are now in the process of arranging a meeting with DOT to discuss the other issues that you expressed support for.
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We will address:The list of items that are to be considered as modification by the DMV when processing Collector Plate applications.
The requirement that the manufacturer certification label remain intact 341.10(6). We hope that DOT will make an interim policy change as we cannot amend this statute until the next session.
URGENT ACTION NEEDED NOW!
Contact Gov. Walker and ask him to Sign this Bill into LAW.
E-Mail him at: govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
Call him at: (608) 266-1212WE ARE WINNING
We have widespread support in the Legislature.
The changes you are helping to make will protect our cars and maintain the hobby for future generations.
Congratulations:
SB-462/AB-580 was “concurred in” by the Assy. on Friday. With the previous vote in the Senate, we believe the bill will now go before Gov. Walker.
Everybody’s efforts seem to be paying off!
Stay tuned…
Every phone call or email definitely helps! Thanks for the support. The unanimous vote in the Senate is HUGE!
Wisconsin Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill SB-462 / AB-580
URGENT ALLERT ** ACTION NEEDED!
UPDATE:
Yesterday, the Bill was passed by the Senate Transportation Committee by a vote of 5-0, a unanimous vote!
Moments ago, the Bill just passed the full Senate with unanimous votes – 33-0!This is great news, but we’re not done yet.
DOT continually opposed the bill, and we were forced to make compromises at the request of various legislators. Multiple concessions were made, and we were ultimately left scrambling for even baby steps. Now that DOT has agreed to just one item, Assembly Republicans are blocking the bill by refusing to vote on it.
This is NOT the bill we wanted, but it is a step in the right direction, and it DOES help the most effected owners possible. (see details below) Assuming we are able to pass this bill, we can/will work next session to address the next item on the list.
WHAT YOU CAN DO:
Contact these three guys. Cut and Paste the following message to them:
cut & paste:I STRONGLY SUPPORT SB-462/AB-580. It is a small, non-controversial bill which was passed unanimously by the Senate. It is supported by Rep. Petrowski and DOT-approved. I want you to do whatever it takes to secure a vote in the Assembly on this bill before the session ends this week.
Assy. Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald
(608) 266-2540
Rep.Fitzgerald@legis.wisconsin.govAssy. Representative Scott Suder
(608) 267-0280
Rep.Suder@legis.wisconsin.govAssy. Asst. Majority Leader Dan Knodl
(608) 266-3796
Rep.Knodl@legis.wisconsin.govDetails on the amendments.
Amendment 1 was in response to DOT’s concerns, as expressed in a meeting w/ Sen. Grothman.
Amendment 2 was reached with DOT, after the Public Hearing. Essentially, it deletes the inspection clause, and the change to Collector requirements. The bill now repeals just one of the statutes which direct DOT to refuse registration, 341.10(6m). Again, it’s only one small step, but it is a change in the right direction.This bill will effect Former Military Vehicles only. Please support this change for a small segment of our hobby, even if it isn’t your own segment. We need to stay united to achieve the changes we want.
Due to opposition within various vehicle groups, we were forced to give up the other more controversial parts of the bill. We are disappointed, because we still believe the bill was good as written. But it faced too much opposition for passage. We will limit the scope of future legislative efforts, based on what we learned here.
To All,
I’m sort of decompressing right now. I’ll add details later.
To say that yesterday was a long day is a vast understatement.
DOT admitted they’d been denying Collector plates due to radios in the car. !!
DOT stated that they are okay with repealing 341.10(6m), which means military vehicles can again register as a normal vehicle. BUT, that remains to be SEEN.
The Senate Comm. has requested that we meet with DOT again… We will.
We’re still pushing for passage this session, but with each passing day it gets less likely.
However, legislative support continues to grow.
To my surprise, there were two fellows who spoke in opposition.
More later.
Thanks to all of you guys who’ve supported this fight. The appeals, open records requests, and push for a legislative solution continue unabated. Keep at it and we’ll beat these holes.To All,
Wisconsin Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill SB-462 / AB-580
Congratulations!
This is the official announcement that our bill has been scheduled for a Public Hearing before the Senate Committee on Transportation, Wed., Mar. 7th! Your calls and emails made this happen.
PLEASE READ:
You have a right to attend this hearing, but you do not need to. You can attend and register IN FAVOR of the bill, and you can speak before the Committee if you wish. BUT, because of time concerns, it might be better if most people did not speak.
Tom and I will both speak about the bill. We have also arranged for a handful of owners who have been particularly inconvenienced by the DMV to speak and tell their “horror tales”. But beyond that, we have been asked to urge you to only register IN FAVOR (if you haven’t already done it on-line HERE), if you choose to attend the hearing. The committee schedule is very full, and we do not want to burden them with too much testimony.HOW YOU CAN HELP
We still need to get this through the Assembly. Contact these two gentlemen. Urge them to work to move this bill forward.Assy. Rep. Jeff Fitzgerald, Speaker of the Assembly
(608) 266-2540
Rep.Fitzgerald@legis.wisconsin.govAssy. Rep. Jerry Petrowski, Chairman Assembly Transportation Committee
(608) 266-1182
Rep.Petrowski@legis.wisconsin.govThanks For Your Continued Hard Work & Support! We can do this!
SenatePUBLIC HEARING
Committee on Transportation and Elections
The committee will hold a public hearing on the following items at the time specified below:
Wednesday, March 7, 2012
9:00 AM
411 South
State CapitolRe: Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill – SB-462 / AB-580
Don’t Let This Bill Die!
DOT is applying enormous pressure to try and kill this Bill. (That probably indicates how much this bill is in your best interests.) Without your efforts, they will succeed.
We expect a Public Hearing on this soon. We may not have much advance notice. STAY TUNED for updates, if you wish to attend. In case you have not yet registered IN FAVOR, do it on-line. Click Here
Urgent Action Needed
Contact the following officials. They are listed in order of importance. Please contact them all, or at least reach the most important ones.
Tell Them:
* I am strongly IN SUPPORT of SB-462 / AB-580.
* I want you to move this bill to a vote before this session ends.
* I want you to VOTE YES on this bill.Gov. Scott Walker
govgeneral@wisconsin.gov
608 262-1212Sen. Scott Fitzgerald
Sen.Fitzgerald@legis.wisconsin.gov
608 266-5660Rep. Jeff Fitzgerald
Rep.Fitzgerald@legis.wisconsin.gov
608 266-2540Sen. Mary Lazich – Chair Senate Transportation Committee
Sen.Lazich@legis.wisconsin.gov
608 266-5400Rep. Jerry Petrowski – Chair Assembly Transportation Committee
Rep.Petrowski@legis.wisconsin.gov
608 266-1182Your Own Senator and Assembly Rep.
In case you do not know who they are, or how to contact them, please go the Wis. Legis. page, Who Are My Legislators?The remaining Transportation Committee Members:
Sen.Leibham@legis.wisconsin.gov vice-chair 608 266-2056
Sen.Lasee@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3512
Sen.Erpenbach@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-6670
Sen.Coggs@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-2500Rep.Farrow@legis.wi.gov vice-chair 608 266-5120
Rep.Ott@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-5831
Rep.Stone@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-8590
Rep.VanRoy@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-0616
Rep.Honadel@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-0610
Rep.Ripp@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3404
Rep.Endsley@legis.wi.gov 608 266-0656
Rep.Knilans@legis.wi.gov 608 266-7503
Rep.Steinbrink@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-0455
Rep.Vruwink@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-8366
Rep.BernardSchaber@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3070
Rep.Jorgensen@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3790
Rep.Bewley@legis.wi.gov 608 266-7690
Rep.Coggs@legis.wi.gov 608 266-0960We won a big fight on Wed, when the Dept of Admin overturned DOT’s denial on a 1985 D-10
Chevy Blazer. Wis. DOA Case# TR-11-0016
This is the third appeal we’ve been involved in, where DOT did not win. It took 13 months of hard work.
This is why this bill got drafted, so citizens do not have to go through this unreasonable and unnecessary struggle.
I’ll add another post later today, with the next steps to take to support this bill.
Congratulations! Your efforts are paying off! Our bill has progressed to Legislative Committees, which is where they review it and hold hearings on it. Keep up your hard work. We will continue to give direction as this keeps moving ahead.
The bill now has it’s Legislative Names: SB-462 / AB-580.
IMPORTANT: Starting Now, use the Bill Name SB-462 / AB-580 in all communications with your legislators.
WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW:
Register IN-FAVOR For Hearings
We still need your support for the upcoming hearing/s on this bill. We will post the time/date of hearings, but you can click to register IN FAVOR of this bill now, on-line.
Note: You should only register once, but have every Wisconsin citizen you know register.
Note: The sign-in reads “SB-462 and it’s Companion Assembly Bill” because of a delay in getting the AB # assigned. We can’t change the heading now. This registers you for SB-462 / AB-580.Contact the Transportation Committee Members
E-mail them all, or phone them all. Tell them that you support the Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill, and urge them to swiftly pass SB-462 / AB-580. Be short and polite. Here are the members of the Transportation Committees for the Senate and the Assembly:Sen.Lazich@legis.wisconsin.gov chair 608 266-5400
Sen.Leibham@legis.wisconsin.gov vice-chair 608 266-2056
Sen.Lasee@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3512
Sen.Erpenbach@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-6670
Sen.Coggs@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-2500Rep.Petrowski@legis.wisconsin.gov chair 608 266-1182
Rep.Farrow@legis.wi.gov vice-chair 608 266-5120
Rep.Ott@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-5831
Rep.Stone@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-8590
Rep.VanRoy@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-0616
Rep.Honadel@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-0610
Rep.Ripp@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3404
Rep.Endsley@legis.wi.gov 608 266-0656
Rep.Knilans@legis.wi.gov 608 266-7503
Rep.Steinbrink@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-0455
Rep.Vruwink@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-8366
Rep.BernardSchaber@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3070
Rep.Jorgensen@legis.wisconsin.gov 608 266-3790
Rep.Bewley@legis.wi.gov 608 266-7690
Rep.Coggs@legis.wi.gov 608 266-0960Stay Tuned For The Next Update…
For any new members of our notification group, click HERE for extra background info about the bill, including a plain-English (not Legalese) description of what the bill does and quotes from DOT workers which may shock you.
Basic information about the Wisconsin Motor Vehicle Registration Rights Bill is available at Alfa Heaven.
YOUR efforts have paid off. Enough comments reached the legislators that we got several to sign on as Co-Sponsors.
We have now reached Phase 2. Our bill has reached the legislature, and will now be heard by the Senate and Assembly Transportation Committees. Members of both committees have signed on as co-sponsors of the bill. We met with most of the committee members and other influential legislators and/or their staff to answer any questions they might have. Our bill has strong bi-partisan support.
There will be either joint or separate hearings held as soon as next week. We will announce the date/time as soon as it is announced. You may attend the hearing/s, but it is not necessary that you do in order to voice your opinion. You can sign up, on-line, IN FAVOR of SB-462 and it’s companion Assembly Bill. You only need to enter your name and address. It’s easy and can be done in one step.
Click HERE, to register IN FAVOR.If you decide to attend the hearing, you can choose to speak or not, but either way you can register IN FAVOR of the bill. We will have several key people scheduled to speak and answer the legislators questions. Having too many people speak may actually be detrimental to our efforts, because the hearing schedule is very tight and we do not want to overwhelm the committees with too much testimony. Simply registering IN FAVOR, either in person or on-line is sufficient.
If you are unable or otherwise unwilling to register on-line, there are other options. You can call us with your information, and we will add you to the list. Paul – 608 437-3465 or Tom – 715 449-2141
THIS IS NOT THE END. We will likely need to take other steps to ensure the passage of our bill. Please stay tuned and involved.
Thank You for your continued support and efforts,
Paul Underwood
Tom Zat
Curt RymkusPlease forward this email to any concerned citizens.
If YOU wish to be added to our group email notification list, please email us at: MVRegistrationRights@Yahoo.com
The Co-Sponsorship period is over. YOUR efforts paid off. Remember, this is just STEP ONE.
We have gathered several additional Co-Sponsors to the bill. Here is the full list of Sponsors:
Senators: Grothman, Erpenbach, and Wanggaard
Assembly Representatives: Wynn, Petrowski, Strachota, Thiesfeldt, Endsley, Kestell, Kerkman, Stroebel,
Marklein, A. Ott, and KrugThis is a pretty good showing, given the political climate in Wis. right now.
We anticipate the bill getting a Senate Bill number on Monday. More news then.
Paul
