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I think the Daytona will go stupid and some idiot will think it’s a valuable collectible at $140,000
The Cuda will be around $2M….that same car sold for $3M on ebay about 5 years ago
and Boss 429s are still in the $400,000-600,000 range, my guess is $430,000I talked to a few people at shows, and many have shared the same thoughts. It is losing it’s luster for many of us. For me, it has always been the same. I build a car that I want to build thinking “when I get it where I want, I will stay with this one”..then the same thing happens, I enjoyed the building more than the owning. It seems time after time, I get the car to a place that I am happy with the look/performance and I part with it. I just can’t seem to be satisfied and happy. With this summer I have understood a few things and been annoyed by a few more.
I have finally understood the attitude that I have hated for so long. That attitude is the “I don’t want to see new car at shows” attitude. I have always thought it was the new cars themselves. But I have realized that maybe it is the “just off the showroom..I have done nothing to it…look what I bought” cars at shows. The only difference between them and the same one at the grocery store down the street, is maybe this one is cleaner. I have grown to have a “a car at a show should have had some effort put into it” attitude. It should be more than a purchase. There should be some blood, sweat and effort into creating something special. Anyone can write a check. Show me a part of yourself.
I have always been a large supporter of eliminating year restrictions and getting the next generation involved. I still believe that. But it is becoming harder and harder to stand up for the spoiled brats of today. When I was a 18 year old kid with my first and second cars, I wanted to be involved with the older guys with the cool cars too. But unlike the kids of today, I respected them and looked up to them. I wanted to learn from them and EARN their acceptance. The kids today DEMAND it. They don’t respect anyone. And they don’t show what they can do. They TELL you what they have (supposedly) done. Zac knows some of what I am talking about.
And honestly, many of the 40 somethings aren’t much better. They pull into a show with their store bought car and expect to be respected because Motor Trend said their car is special. The focus has gone from cars being an expression of the owner, to a car being a status symbol. The rarity of the car is what too many people think makes them unique rather than the artistic expression of the work the owner put in. Real car people, the ones who love cars and feel they are an extension of themselves, car fans and collectors, are being overshadowed by “car investors” who care nothing about the art or emotion of a car, and only care about the monetary value. If it continues down this path, the hobby will fall apart. We all grew up enjoying the car hobby because the cars touch something emotionally for us. Nobody likes the guy who tells you how special he is because of how much money he has to spend. The hobby is being overrun by too many of those pompous “look at me I have a big bank account” guys.
By next week, my car will be gone and I will be taking a break from this hobby. I may make an appearance at a show here and there as a spectator. But it will be a few years before I do another build. I just don’t have it in me to be part of it all right now. I am disgusted with the “check writers” and ashamed of the kids.
Did a show in Delafield today. Only went for a couple hours. It was cool to see some cars that I have never seen before. It was a nice show, about 180 cars. Some really cool fat tire cars
You used the wrong argument. The correct argument is “you’re not the boss of me. I’ve experienced stuff”
GM’s problem actually hurt people.
VW just kind of played with the law. The law said it must pass emissions. And it did…..on the machine. The law does not state directly that emissions must be met at all times, only that it must test and meet standards. I think many who build cars can be accused of playing that game if they lived in an emission testing area. I know in Dallas there were plenty of us that would change the tune to pass emissions, or install the cats and remove them after passing, or even find a shop that would give you a pass. VW just did it on a grander scale.
I know in this current world we live in, saving the environment will take more importance than saving lives.
Amigo2k wrote:like this:
I think there are two ways to handle this
1) walk up, lean against your car right next her. Kindly look over and ask
“Is this your car?” and when she replies “no”
Get 1 inch from her face and yell “THEN GET YOUR FAT ASS OFF MY FUCKING CAR!!”or
2) from 30 yards away yell, loudly enough for everyone in the park to hear you
“HEY FAT BROAD!! GET YOUR ASS OFF OF MY CAR!!!!”When everyone turns to look, she will know
Rachel, I am with you on this big time. I remember seeing people walk around at Spring Green with their “beloved” dogs. I kept thinking “what kind of jerkoff walks his/her dog around on hot pavement?” I could only imagine how uncomfortable that was for the dog. I wouldn’t have lasted 20 feet on that pavement barefoot and inches off the ground. I wouldn’t dream of subjecting my friend to that
I have never noticed this. My assumption would be “we sell stuff here, don’t bring in your own”..But after seeing y’alls comments I wonder if it is intended simply for spectators and also means “no alcoholic beverages”
Wish I could be there. My car is still in the shop. Finally got it in and pulled the trans. Pieces of metal on the magnets. Looks like, at the very least, the reverse synchro exploded.
http://transamdepot.com/trans_am_showroom.html
Here is the company that makes those modern Camaro Trans Am conversions. They also do GTOs.
The Cube isn’t ugly IMO, just really unique and odd. Now a Prius..that is hideous. In fact anything by Toyota now is pretty damn ugly.
Thru all of this, I am starting to agree with the guys that don’t want new cars in shows. I starting to agree with the years restrictions.
The older cars in the modified class are judged for the quality of the WORK on the car and simple stick-on cosmetic changes are frowned upon…..as it should be. REAL EFFORT must be put in to win in a classic modified class.
And stock is just that stock. Concourse style, if it aint what it was born with, it aint stock.
The new cars don’t abide by those standards. Simple ebay stick-on stuff is reacted with “Oooo where did you get that? I want it” and real work is ignored. Stock is not followed either. The newer guys seem to pick any class they think they can win, then get their friends to vote on them so they do.
I think the word is integrity. There is no integrity in the hobby any more. Is a $4 trophy worth it all?
I know this comes across as me bitching because I didn’t win. But honestly, I don’t mind when a nice car wins. I don’t mind going home empty handed because I wasn’t best or another was as nice and it was just his day. But I hate the lack of integrity.
I am becoming increasingly irritated by this subject as of late.
Today at Mopars on the Mississippi I was in the “Modified LX” class. Correct class for me. I did not place. The cars that won…..
3rd – a 2015 with lowering springs, rims and aftermarket brake rotors. Everything else is bone stock. Everything. Even the guy parking us asked “why is that car in this class?” And shook his head. But by the “3 mods” rule….
2nd place – a filthy, and I mean probably never cleaned under the hood filthy, 2010 with cheap ABS rear window louvers and a shaker hood and hood pins. Nothing else. Driveline, bone stock. Paint, bone stock. Suspension, bone stock.
1st place – a V6 Charger with every stick-on piece of cheap fake chrome that JC Whitney sells, some AutoZone cheap LED light strips, some vinyl stripes, some stick-on woodgrain dash trim, and LED headlight ‘halos’. Engine- bone stock. Paint – bone stock. Driveline – bone stock. It looked really good but come on.There was a time when if it came from JC Whitney or from “that aisle” at AutoZone we laughed at it.
We need to start having standards. I am all for letting everyone in on the hobby. I have been a vocal person on that. But we really need to start encouraging people to do stuff well. This becoming too much of a “here’s your trophy for participation”
