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Slow down there brother. I read your posted report and I understand what you are trying to get across, a warning. But the warning I received was not about a dangerous chemical, it was about abuse of that chemical. In the report he clearly says “I usually use carb cleaner to clean metal parts before welding..” This is using a chemical for other than it’s intended use. Why? probably because the proper chemical is more expensive. He then goes on to say that “the auto parts store was out of what I normally use so I tried brake cleaner…” Again not using a chemical for it’s intended use. Why? because he was impatient, lazy or whatever other reason to not buy the proper chemical for the job.
I appreciate your care in posting this message, but make no mistake, the chemical did not create the problem, using a dangerous, explosive chemical for other than it’s intended use was the culprit.
Yes, there is a lesson here to be learned, carelessness can harm, or kill. Use the proper chemicals for their intended use only . Do not cheap out or use “whatever is handy”. Do I feel bad that this person was harmed? Yes, but (no offense) he put it upon himself by being careless. Welding and use of chemicals, any chemicals, is dangerous. Using explosive chemicals is more so. I am sure a shop that specializes in welding supplies has a chemical for cleaning parts that is not as dangerous and does not react to welding by creating a poisonous gas. An auto parts store is not where to find this. And pulling something off of the shelf that “should work” but is not intended for this purpose is dangerous and careless. That is the point I was making.
I do not care what this guy (who is younger than I by the way) does for a living. I know many, many professionals that have developed dangerous and careless habits. His history of welding does not take away from his carelessness. In fact, it helps to prove my point that it does not matter how experienced you may be, carelessness will catch up to you. Be smart, be careful and be safe.
I am sorry that you got butthurt in this. Zac cracks jokes, hell, many of us do. Don’t be so thin skinned.
The lesson here is not about the chemical composition of the brake cleaner. The lesson is to use chemicals for what they are intended. All chemicals that are available to the general public are safe if used properly. The person in this (possibly fictional) report put himself in danger by not using chemicals properly. The danger is not the chemical itself, it is the careless stupidity of the user
It a nice show. I enjoy it. You may be correct about the “Chicago connection”. It is the same group that runs the Belvedere show as well. I got shut out in Belvedere by two brothers that we laughingly call the “JT Whitney” cars. It doesn’t matter. I spend maybe 10 minutes at my car and the rest of the time enjoying the show and looking at the other cars. Who cares about who takes home a trophy? Enjoy your car, enjoy others’ cars, and don’t concern yourself with a piece of plastic
Here’s a link to my photos.
http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n60/sweetd3rdgen/Spring%20Green-2012/circletrack wrote:That is exactly why we do not exclude newer cars at our show… I never want anyone to feel like they are not welcome. I may not always agree on your choice of vehicle, but it’s yours, you love it and are proud of it.well said
Received an interesting comment this weekend about year limits.
“by limiting years they are telling me they do not want me there”
Is that how anyone really wants their show to be thought of?
krooser wrote:IMHO the simplest ay to avoid all this “class envy” is to simply stop judging…I find that shows are much more enjoyable when it’s all about friends and cars… not about plastic trophies. No crying about another guy who spent less getting a trophy… no more complaining about mis-classified cars. No picking apart someones home restoration…
Now if we could just insert some “fun” back into the shows instead of sitting in a lawn chair… I can do that at home and save $$$ on gas.
End of curmudgeon rant…
Yep. This is why I enjoy cruise nights more than shows. That and they take up less of my day
I started playing drums when I was 10. I was singing in my first band at 15, and moved to LA to go to MIT (musicians institute) when I was 21. I played in a few bands out there and came close to signing. I discovered that the music business was not for me, too much business not enough music.
Influences? Big Judas Priest fan back in the day. Now more into Glenn Hughes
gh wrote:My opinion was asked for….there’s the difference.
ghReally? What difference? Providing a forum for people to share there views (opinions) is asking. Providing a thread asking for reviews (opinions) of shows is asking. Checking that forum and thread to read those reviews of shows (opinions) is asking.
I am sure that I speak for many when I say that your opinions, views, reviews, and any other term you want to use, is welcome here, but please do not tell us all that ours are not as important or that others are assholes for having them while you give yours.
I agree with Zac on this. Forums are created, in part, as a venue for “humble” opinions. I find it a little ironic that you would criticize others of expressing the humble opinions, while expressing your humble opinion.
The “Rate the Show” section is designed specifically for those “humble” opinions about each show. I believe the intent was to provide feedback so the people hosting the shows can know what can be improved. Take it for what it is worth, one persons opinion.
And I have seen your car as well, very beautiful. But it is not stock and should never compete in a stock class. Your “2nd day mods” are mods. Intake and exhaust, rims/tires, and paint are “variations away from the way the car came from the factory” better known as modified.
Just my humble opinion. And I am not an asshole, I am a prick. Asshole is not intentional
GTO Man wrote:This is a case where people who had nothing to do with the situation will get hurt. But it needs to be that way so that it doesn’t happen again. There isn’t a good way to disconnect the current students and the University from the punishment.People in this country for some reason put sports stars, coaches, etc. on a pedestal. Why, I can’t figure out. It is entertainment, nothing more than that.
Famous people, and people of power in general, are revered because most of us want to be more than we are.
There is a way to charge the school and not the students…huge heavy fines. And that money put towards programs for sexually abused children. Do some good, not simply punish for the sake of punishment. There should be healing, not more damage.
And no matter what punishment you create, sick people will do sick things.
