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Part of what went into the decision to sell my Challenger. Now, I know mine was far from stock, and I enjoyed going to shows with the work I had done, but the amount of new cars at shows is over the top.
One of the last shows I went to was Beloit, 2 years ago. There was 2-3 rows of new Challengers. I remember sitting there among them thinking “there is nothing special about any of these. They are all store bought cars. Just because you bought a car, and enjoy it, does not mean that everyone else wants to see it”.
It was not long after that, that I traded the car in. Even with all of the work I had done, I did not want to be associated with the “look I bought a car” people.
The 2017 Challenger GT is a V6 automatic option only. No V8.
The rumor is that the Demon will be the V8 version
Had a decal made for my truck.
Picture this, you’re in your Prius, at a stop light, behind a big black 4×4 that gets 12-14mpg. As you look up, at the bumper (which is eye level) you notice a decal that says
I almost bought a Prius…..but I like myself
I had a discussion a couple years back about car shows and trophies.
When you get your first car nice enough to show, you are just happy to be included and to feel accepted. That is enough and the joy is being at the show, being part of the show, and seeing the other cars. You enjoy yourself and you don’t care about trophies.
Then you get your first one. It is exciting and you feel proud. Eventually you get another, then another. You start to really work on your car. You do things with the hope of winning a trophy. You go to shows where you think you have the best chance of winning. It starts to become more important than simply enjoying being part of it all and enjoying your car and the other cars.
Now it becomes it’s own monster. You start to care only about that damn piece of plastic. Cleaning and improving your car, then going to the show has one purpose….winning a trophy. You become critical of others. “why did he win and not me?” or “My car is better” or the ever popular “the judges are stupid”. You get disappointed with shows that you don’t win. You don’t feel pride when you do win, you just have an arrogant “I expected to win” attitude. You don’t enjoy it any more.
Then eventually you realize that it isn’t fun any more. You stop going to shows. You wash your car less. A friend says “we’re going to the show this weekend. Wanna come?” You figure, eh it’s been a while, and I used to enjoy it…why not?
So you give her a good detail. You realize how much you enjoy looking at her when she is well detailed. You go to the show with no expectations. You just want to hang out with friends and look at some cool cars. You see people you haven’t seen in a while.
It is then you realize that the trophies don’t matter. It is all about your enjoyment in the hobby and the friendships.
I think we all go thru those steps.
Interesting list. The Chevelle, Charger, Superbird, GTO are all pretty much on all lists like this. The GSX makes many lists. The Machine is an odd choice. It is one of my favorites, but is often overlooked….as is the Torino. It is strange to not see a Cuda, Challenger, Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang
While I understand the sentiments expressed here, I often think that maybe the “exclusive” attitude of this show has created the problems. By restricting the show to “older vehicles”, the message is that the newer cars are somehow “not good enough”. The newer car owners have now expressed a desire to be included the only way they can, by creating their own. If the wish is to be an event for car enthusiasts, then it should include ALL car enthusiasts. Even the Good Guys have realized this and now include “newer” muscle cars. Good Guys was originally created as a group for street rods. It realized that the hobby is more than that and grew to include the muscle cars of the 60’s and 70’s. Now, within the past couple of years, it has realized that for the hobby to grow it must expand to also include the newer cars as well.
My view is that, in order to show the enthusiasts of the future how great this hobby can be, they must be included to witness, first hand, how to interact with others in a positive manner….and even some of the “old guard” can open their eyes to some new ideas and views.
We have all developed friendships, and even (in a way) families, because of our love for the art form of the automobile. Why exclude the youth because their passion takes a different form? We were all kids once. We all remember just wanting to be included. And when we were “kept out” we often felt unwanted and angry. You can’t expect them to learn how to interact if you don’t allow them to.
hahaha “100 point truck” That’s funny right there. If I show up, I wouldn’t hope/expect anything. Truck classes (like the Road Apples) go from 1950/60’s to present, and we ALL know some very beautiful trucks. I would have to ask that no older truck be disrespected that way….plus it’s an import.
All I can say is a 2″ suspension lift is coming, an exhaust will probably be too, along with some more “dark” touches
I figured whoever bought my car would probably drive it in this stuff. I took much of what I did off. The engine is still built, the interior is still done, and f course the paint. But under hood looked pretty stock, and the stock suspension was put back in, when I got rid of it. This summer is going to be a but weird for me not having a car. That said I do not regret the decision yet. Who knows? Maybe I will do the Big Blue truck thing and show up at a few shows with a truck…..if I am allowed. It is just a new truck after all….with a few jonmandude touches.
I did see one of those wooly caterpillars today in my driveway. Maybe spring is near
I noticed Steve Davis talking before and during almost every car. He seemed to be reeeeeaally trying to push the sales…more so than in previous years. I noticed on Sunday he actually almost insulted the crowd during bidding for one Boss 302. He did his usual “this is a (whatever dollar amount) car” crap and then “instructed” the crowd on how the sellers deserve better.
Seriously? Look dude, the cars are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them. You telling people what you think they’re worth does not make it so. maybe 4-5 years ago you could dictate a car’s value and people listened, but the hobby (much like the housing market) was artificially inflated by the wealthy and now it is leveling back to a more realistic level. Ron Pratt sold much of his collection and I wonder when RIck Hendricks will follow suit. Once the old rich guys are done, the values are going to drop. The 30 and under crowd see a Corvette and see it as an “old man’s car”. Does anyone really think a kid of today will pay $100,000 for a Corvette 20 years from now?Sure they like the musclecars (probably because of Fast & Furious) but talk to one and they don’t see why they are worth so much.
