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What started with Reagan you ask?
three words
Trickle down theory
Give the rich tax breaks so the money can trickle down to the working class. Error..greed of the rich. No money trickled down and it continues to this day and has grown to obscene proportions.
My favs
Bullit
History of the world part1
blazing saddles (I never get tired)
Young frankenstein
a few good men
training day
street kingsIn depends on the business and the position.
In the bar business, I would rather work for a larger, multi-location business. They seem to be better run with less “the family comes first” attitudes. Small “family” bars also tend to not obey all of the laws, allow drinking by employees, run out of stock, not be as clean, because they fly under the radar of the law.
In production work, I would rather work for a smaller family run business. They pay better, often supply better benefits, and honestly appreciate the employees more, but you work more hours.
I share you feelings Marshall. I was raised a true blue Chevy person. My father was Chevy, Chevy, Chevy. My first 3 cars were Ford (71 Torino) Chevy (63 Impala) and Plymouth (74 Satellite). I grew up on Muscle. When I was in LA I purchased a Nissan Hardbody pickup and that vehicle lasted forever. I got 200,000+ with hardly any maintenance beyond basic. Now I have two Nissans in my Driveway. I still love the muscle cars but they don’t stack up as a vehicle to drive every day.
Time simply passed the Big 3 by. Partly because of us. We hated the attempts made in the 70’s gas crunch. We didn’t fall in love with the Mustang 2 or any the Monte Carlos and Cutlass’ of the late 70’s. We told the big 3 that we hated the gutless power and the smooth lines. We demanded size and they gave it to us. The only profits they got from us was large SUV sales and the return of a muscle car Mustang. When we wanted economy, we all went import. The “buy american” people accepted less quality and the “import” people demanded quality.
They don’t know how to think outside their own boxes.
I think we need to simply stop paying CEO’s mega-bucks with golden parachutes. We need to make CEO pay directly related to company performance and not guaranteed. CEO pay should also be relative to employee pay.
Yeah I got into a discussion about this subject on another forum with a real ultra-republican extreme winger. He was all defensive on the CEO’s deserving the big paychecks because they work so hard.
I cornered him with this argument…A CEO is responsible for the future of a company, ie the job of a CEO is to plan 5 years out and put the company in a position to be profitable. He agreed.
If these CEO’s are worth the mega-millions they make, then they should have seen this coming and prepared for it , because after all that is the job of a CEO and these guys are so good that they are worth millions. So since this is happening than obviously there was no preparation, which means the CEO was not doing the job that he was getting paid millions for, which means he is not worth the pay.
I won the argument.
Well Ford has responded. The CEO offered to work for $1/year, sell the corporate jets, and cancel all bonuses and merit raises to salaried employees. To me that is a great move but it also tells me that he has made way too much already if he can afford to work for $1. GM offered to drive to the next congressional meeting.
It is funny that the one company that said it can probably survive next year without help, and has the lowest CEO salary, is the one company that is willing to make the first move to help.
The other high-dollar CEO’s in this country better start to take notice because this is only the beginning. This economic crisis will hit them too.
Quote:If our country is really a free market society, then the automakers should fail and restructure under bankruptcy…and the same goes for the banks, etc.What people seem to not realize is that we are now in a GLOBAL economy, where our products must compete against others from around the world. And if the products from the US fall short compared to others from other parts of the world, then the US companies need to step it up or go out of business.
In short, “Country of Origin” carries very little weight.
Well said. I fear that this is only the beginning. So many companies are run by greedy CEO’s who make millions while the working class get little pay, long hours, and little for their efforts. The choice in the past was unions but that became as corrupt as the CEO’s and did little to help the workers while taking even more from their pockets.
I have said for years that this country was headed for a revolution because CEO’s pay was increasing at an alarming rate while the masses were struggling at 2 and 3 % pay increases. Also the housing and auto prices were going up at rates beyond what people were making. It looks like I have been right. The housing market has collapsed bringing the banks with it. The auto market is collapsing. Now many of the companies run by the same type of irresponsible greed as the big 3 will start to collapse as well. It is an economic revolution.
You cannot continue to give all of the money to 10% of the populace while expecting the other 90% to continue to pay for everything. Sooner or later it all falls down.
Viva La Revolution.It costs money to run for office, to get your name out and your voice heard. So, as a result, we get a government of the rich who do the job only to get more rich and not to serve the people’s interests. Nothing short of a complete reform could ever solve it.
It is a “let’s grab all that we can before Bush is out of office” game of late. I guess I will never understand the rich mentality that assumes their bank account is more important than the nation they live in.
The fact that it was going to the banks and not to the problem should have been a clue. It should have went to pay off the bad loans, or at least help the people struggling with the bad loans, not to the banks carrying those loans. Once again our government “for the people” proved to be only only for the rich people to get richer off of the rest of us.
do you think they are going to say it will be worse? They say that every year, “next year will be even better”. Everybody says that. If they don’t think we deserve a Good Guys show, then they don’t deserve our money. Forget Good Guys.
Quote:Dave (Larson) is the former proprietor of Capitol Corvette.And why do you feel that this is important? Everyone here knows the past with Dave Larson and issues that took place with Capital Corvette. It sucked for many people, but it is past and the people involved did time for their involvement and (according to the law) paid the price. Let it go. We all make mistakes and do things that aren’t right (though usually not at that level). Dave has always been good to me.
